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Thanks for the photos - I really wasn't expecting such a difference in size. Still, the keyboard is a must.

Just wondering about the software that comes as standard. Specs talk about GPS capability but I've not yet seen mention of GPS software.

Also, any indication of battery life from a mixed usage (phone calls, video, web, document viewing, etc)?

Thanks for the info, regardless of size or weight or thickness, woudl you say that the touch pro seems like a smaller or more pocket able phone then the titan II? Thanks

has anyone else been sent a touch pro from clove despite having ordered and paid for a touch diamond? or is that just me?

didnt even realise til after i'd opened the box, now i don't have a proof of purchase, well i do, but for the wrong phone...

I second the request for more useful information on battery life when you're doing various things.

Only other thing I can think of is about the sound quality when making phone calls. Remember hearing somewhere that the Diamond had pretty poor quality outgoing, so hope there's an improvement.

Hi,

Absolutely great review....just a few questions please. :)

1. Does it come with GPS Software? If Not where and how much can you buy one from.
2. Also does it come with Google Maps? If Yes then does it come with the new version with the Pin droping animation?
3. Can you Please demonstrate Remote Desktop Connection?
4. Does the TouchFlO not ( TouchFLO 3D ) work in the normal programs like Word, Excel, Outlook..? Meaning does the
finger flicking upwards or downwards work in these apps?
5. Can you please demonstrate the phone feature, like making a call? I'd heard in the Diamond review that after
making a call the screen dims after 3-4 seconds, does the Touch PRO have the same Problem?
6. What is Max SD Card capacity? 16 or 32 GB? Also are the cards available.
7. Can you Please also demonstrate the GSEN application.
8. Can you Please also demonstrate the on screen keyboard.

I know I've asked a few questions...but would very much appreciate your reply.

Thanx

Kinara :)

Ok folks, lets try to answer some of your questions.

The Touch Pro does have built in GPS. It has Google Maps pre-installed but for 'proper' sat nav you'll have to buy something like TomTom or CoPilot. GPS seems good though.

Battery life, as you would expect from the larger battery, is much better than the Diamond. I've been playing around with WiFi, Bluetooth, playing videos, music, web browsing etc. and I've used it well past the 24 hour mark without charging. I'll comment on this more as I use it over the next week or so.

The Pro is much neater than the TyTN II (IMHO) and fits much better in my pocket. It a head turner too!

I cant comment on the outgoing sound quality at the moment but the incoming audio is quite clear BUT is quieter than the Diamond.

The screen on the Pro does dim when making a call, same as the Diamond. You can change that in the registry though and for me its really no big deal - you just turn the screen back on if you need to.

I am using an 8GB memory card. I dont know what the limit is but being microSDHC compatible I guess 16GB will be ok, I've yet to see one of these though so cant say for sure.

I'll give you more info in the review!

Oh and to Mr Anon - you got a pro and not a Diamond? Want to swap? :P

M

as most people will be bying this to upgrade their tytn II any chance you can sho some side by side photos? And as a light business user is it worth me upgrading from my tytn II?

Thanks for the information. I'm curious about the incoming audio being quieter then the Diamond. Is it significantly quieter? Like enough to be a problem if you're making a call in a busy enviroment.

Have you tested this with CoPilot or TomTom. i would be very interested in how they perform.

What about input characters like é è ô or whatever for French language, is it easy to access? and what do you have for different T9 dictionnaries? thanks for the feedback.

Matt, any chance of some picks of the pro beside the tytn II?
Thanks for a great blog!

Matt, can you help with defining where to by HTC Touch Pro in London? I'm coming to London on Monday 25 August. Any cheapest shop in the city?

Sure you will cover them but comments on the following would be really useful....

1) On the touch diamond the internal memory can be used directly as a USB device.
Is this functionality available on the Touch Pro - allowing the user to share the MicroSD card? I have found WM5Storage to be a bit flaky on the TYTNII - especially connection to Linux Box's.

2) Battery life. What is this in practice? Due to its small size my Diamond can make it through the day only if you dont use it.... I think the battery is bigger but would be good to see how much "average" (yes I know) use its possible to get out of the Pro.

3) Reception - The diamond (for me) does not have as good reception as the TYTNII. I can get a HSDPA Signal on the TYTN with quick downloads where the diamond can only get GPRS - Which I guess is down to anntenna size. Comments on Reception strength would be good.

Thanks

Paul.

I don't know of any specific store that has these in stock but I suspect that you will find a shop on Tottenham Court Road that has them, just make sure you get UK stock!

Paul - Touch Pro has the same option to use memory as a USB device.

I'm getting about two days from the battery at the moment but I'll try and test this a bit more scientifically later.

Reception on the Pro is better than the Diamond for sure, more like the TyTN II!

Matt

Before I shipped to Iraq I had a HP hw6515 PDA Phone. This was a year ago. I know technology has taken a nice step forward since then. I liked it for the most part but my biggest complaint was the audio volume on the earpiece. It was VERY quiet. And the speakerphone mode was no better. Would you say the PRO is better in this regard? As well, I have heard that the TouchFLO capability doesn't apply to Office programs and such like it in that you can't scroll webpages and documents and things just with a flick. Is this true?

Nonetheless, I'll still be getting one when it's available for the US, just wanted to get an idea of what things to expect in my style of use.

Thanks for that Matt.

I also thought of another thing...

I think the Touch Pro has an Accelerometer. Can this be easily overridden with a screen rotate like on the HTC Cube App? I have had the accelerometer on a Canon camera before and it works fine in the beginning but after about 6 months of use it tends to become a bit more random. Be a bit of a pain if the TomTom rotates just cause you go over a bump in the road!

Thanks

Paul.

Can't wait for the full review.
Any idea when Sony will be releasing their Xperia and will you be doing a comparison once both are out?

Adam

Thanks Matt, I hope I'll order it in Durham on devicewire if I don't find it in London) where from did you get it?

Would like to know how battery life is with 3G, Wifi, and GPS on compared to the Diamond..

pretty long time matt. won't fail to appreciate ur time. frankly speaking u have one of the best blog on the net. pls don't fail to notify me on a full review of the pro. think is the best phone ever. place a finger on what youtube video over 3g or wifi looks like on the pro. thanks a lot!

I am very interested in getting this phone, but I have heard really bad things about reception (especially on T-Mobile, which is the only network I can get it on seeign as though I can't afford it without contract and Vodafon and o2 only sell it to businesses!).

You say the reception is better than the diamond, but is it actually any good? What network are you running it on?

Can't wait for the full review!

Have any one installed the tomtom in the diamond pro? I tried to installed the previous Navigator6, from the cruise, and it didn't work. I'm affraid of buying a new one that wouln't work.

I have some tomtom maps, so I will be more than happy of getting it back.

So the big question is, would you recommend this above the Samsung Omnia ?

I've had the Omnia for a couple of day and not that happy with it.

Well my Omnia arrived yesterday so I'll let you know!

Hello.

Battery of the PRO is the same (measured) that that of the diamond.????



Sorry for my English, I am Spanish

Their common features are listed as follows:

* 2.8-inch touch screen, 640×480 pixels.
* Vibrant TouchFLO 3D user interface, responding perfectly to your finger gestures when scrolling through contacts, browsing the web, and launching media… all vividly displayed as photos and artwork powered by the 3D graphics processor.
* HTC Weather - providing a constant view of weather at home and abroad.
* Surf and download at broadband speed with HSDPA internet connectivity and Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11 b/g).
* 3.2 megapixel auto-focus camera for quality stills and video.
* Integrated GPS for use with maps software for a full turn-by-turn satellite navigation experience.

By looking at their outlooks, it is obvious that Pro has a full-size QWERTY keyboard. Diamond has a software QWERTY keyboard since its screen is also a touch interface. Pro is 0.71 inches thick and Diamond is only 0.45 inches thick. Also, Pro is 5.83 oz and Diamond is 3.88 oz. Pro is thicker and heavier than Diamond, again, because of its full-size QWERTY keyboard. Depends on your preference, I personally prefer thinner and lighter gadget.

Other features are fairly similar as listed above. Except Diamond has 4GB of internal memory out-of-box, while Pro has only 512MB only! However, Pro has GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz bands (Quad band) while Diamond has only 900/1800/1900 MHz (Tri band). I am still using my two-year-old Moto K1 (Quad band). Comparing with my old SE phone (I don’t remember the model but it was only a tri band), the 850 MHz band really make a different in North Ameria, at least in Canada.

From their name, Pro has more value-added features, such as 850 MHz band and longer battery life. Diamond aims for the entertainment-rich features, such larger memory for music/movie download.

Looking at Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1, it is very comparible to Pro. In fact, they both have full-size QWERTY keyboard, they are both running MS Windows Mobile 6.1, they are both quad band compatible and Wi-Fi support. However, X1 is a stonger one comparing to Pro. X1 has a 3 inches WVGA (800×480, 64k-colour TFT) and lighter (5.1 oz).

Can anyone tell me why the time on the home screen often revers to normal type face and why the sound varies from amazing to damm right "tinny". I have had two replacements and have had the same trouble. Other than that, the phone is fantastic for emails, weight and size.

I live in kazakhstan. perhaps, someone knows where it's is I have one difficuly in the disk of my diamond touch pro the phone's needed programmes didn't install correctly i didn't find them at the official site anyone knows where I can find programmes form the phone wich are with it when you buy

Thanks :) i_nessa@yahoo.com

I did want to know, the g-sensor inside the Pro. How well does it work? If i was watching a video i had recorded and turned the hpone side ways will it pick up almost instantly or is there some lag time. Is the option only available when im doing certain functions, or can i change to landscape mode at any time?

Hi Kevin, in my useeage of the phone it is very sensitinve in this scenario and also with Photos. The built in spirit level shows just how sensitive it is.

Regards

John

does the pro touch have a touch screen keyboard along with the slide out keyboard?

@ ralphie :

Yes, the Pro has an on-screen keyboard also, you can use either slide out or on screen.

:) - I have been doing research all day.

Thanks for posting the profile shots of the phones, that really helped my decision. Diamond!

I am getting the diamond unlocked and with tom tom already installed (from a friend and i will save $200 over getting the unlocked pro with tomtom)