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HTC TyTN II review

September 7th, 2007

Does the new HTC TyTN II live up to the hype?

INTRODUCTION

I think it’s fair to say that the HTC Kaiser is the worst kept Windows Mobile secret ever! Looking back at the posts on our site it was almost a year ago that we first mentioned HTC’s new device. Since then rumour and speculation have been the order of the day with the odd ‘leak’ from HTC thrown in.

To be fair, it does look like HTC have been managing the flow of information quite well and the little bits of info have only served to further heighten the interest in the device.

As I’m sure you’re all aware, the HTC Kaiser (aka HTC P4550) had its name officially changed to HTC TyTN II just a few weeks ago.

This isn’t our first look at the device, we have been lucky enough to fondle a couple of demo units over the past few months, but this review will be based solely upon the TyTN II retail unit we received earlier this week.


What’s in the Box?

By now you should have seen my TyTN II unboxing video (if not go have a look now!).

The TyTN II comes in the standard HTC black box and is presented in much the same way as the HTC Touch; the device sits right on top surrounded by black foam. The flap on the front of the box is secured by a magnet.

HTC TyTN II box
HTC TyTN II box

Inside you’ll find:

  • The HTC TyTN II (obviously)
  • Suede effect case
  • Mains Charger
  • USB Sync/Charge cable
  • Application CD with ActiveSync, Sprite Backup, GPRS Monitor and TomTom 6
  • ExtUSB hands free headset
  • Battery
  • Clear screen protector
  • Spare Stylus
  • Manual & getting started guide
  • TyTN II Hardware Specification:

  • Windows Mobile 6
  • Tilted 2.8” 240*320 QVGA touch screen
  • Sliding QWERTY keyboard
  • built-in GPS
  • 3 mega-pixel auto focus camera
  • VGA camera for 3G/UMTS video-calling
  • HTC Home menu screen
  • Tri-band UMTS with Quad-band GSM/GPRS/Edge
  • HSDPA up to 3.6 Mbps HSUPA
  • ROM 256MB and RAM 128MB
  • 360 degree 3 way jog wheel paired with OK button
  • microSD card slot
  • WiFi 802.11 b/g , Bluetooth 2.0
  • TouchFLO Technology

  • GENERAL

    At just 110x58x18mm it’s a full 4mm thinner than the original TyTN and is only a few grams heavier, its size is comparable to the HTC Trinity (Orange M700).

    On the front of the TyTN II you’ll find the usual 5-way d-pad, a couple of soft keys, 'send' and 'end' phone buttons, an IE button, Email button, Windows Button and, finally, an OK button.

    TyTN II D-pad
    TyTN II D-pad

    Just above the screen you’ll notice a front-facing VGA camera for 3G video conferencing.

    Looking to the bottom of the unit there’s a microSD card slot (just below the navigation buttons) which comes complete with a plastic dust cover. There’s also an ExtUSB connector for sync/charge and audio. Next to that a reset button and the space for the full-size stylus.

    TyTN II Bottom
    TyTN II Bottom

    On the right hand side are power and camera buttons.

    TyTN II right side
    TyTN II right side

    And on the left a scroll wheel along with OK and voice notes buttons.

    TyTN II left side
    TyTN II left side

    Turning the device over reveals the loudspeaker and a 3.0 megapixel camera. Note that there is no flash or mirror however. It’s also on the back that you’ll find the biggest give away one of the TyTN II’s best features; built in GPS as indicated by the large rubber cover over the external GPS antenna socket. More on this later.

    TyTN II back
    TyTN II back

    It’s not until you slide the screen open that you discover the TyTN II’s best party trick; the tilting screen. The spring loaded screen slides back to reveal a full QWERTY keyboard which has decent sized keys that are slightly raised which makes them pretty easy to use. You also get a couple of indicator LED’s that show you the Caps and Function status.

    TyTN II Keyboard
    TyTN II Keyboard

    I have to admit that I wasn’t sure about that tilting screen, and didn’t think that it would be that useful or practical. However, in practice I have to say this is a great idea! The TyTN II sits neatly on my desk and with the screen tilted it’s easy to see the display and it looks like a baby laptop.

    TyTN II tilted
    TyTN II tilted

    In the past, some HTC devices have been affected by problems with touchscreen alignment, but you shouldn’t have any problems with the TyTN II in this department. The 240 x 320 display is clear and bright and also seems not to suffer from yellow colour cast that has been common on earlier devices.

    The keyboard has a nice positive action to it and works extremely well. It’s virtually identical to the HTC Herald, and very similar to the HTC TyTN. Holding the device in both hands it’s easy to type at a fair rate using just your thumbs.

    Finally, to insert a SIM card you have to slide the keyboard open and then look on the rear of the screen. Under a flap you’ll find the SIM card slot.

    TyTN II sim socket
    TyTN II sim socket


    SOFTWARE

    This final production build of the ROM varies in a number of ways to the demo units we’ve seen so far. The most obvious addition is TouchFLO. Don’t expect the TouchFLO experience to be the same as the HTC Touch, however, as this is a somewhat cut down implementation of the technology and is limited to a home screen plug in offering a large digital style clock, favorite people speed dials, local weather, a quick launch tool and profile controls. You won’t find the 3D cube on the TyTN II and no gesture based swipes across the screen as these both require a more sensitive touchscreen technology. That said, I think that HTC have included the best features of TouchFLO anyway.

    TyTN II TouchFLO
    TyTN II TouchFLO

    Naturally, that TyTN II runs Windows Mobile 6 professional and works fantastically well. The WM6 UI tweaks coupled with that 400mhz CPU and the additional RAM mean that the device flies along quite nicely, switching between screens and bringing up the start menu rapidly. The difference is very noticeable compared to my Samsung i600!

    As this is an HTC branded device it’s a fairly standard build of WM6, there are a couple of HTC customisations, ie. TouchFLO and Task Manager but you wont find any operator specific home screens and no one has removed Windows Live Messenger or played around with the icons. Naturally as operators begin to release their own versions of the TyTN II we’ll see more customised versions of the ROM.


    Highlights:

  • Keyboard: The built in keyboard is fantastic, certainly one of the best I’ve seen from any mobile device.
  • Specification: 400mHz CPU, 256mb ROM, 128mb RAM, EDGE, HSDPA, HSUPA, GPS – the list goes on!
  • Camera: 3.0 Megapixels may not sound like a lot these days but picture quality is good and the autofocus works really well. Certainly the best camera I’ve seen in a WM device.
  • GPS: I know that I mentioned this already but having GPS built into a device and not having to have an external unit is a real boon!
  • Lowlights:

  • Size/Weight: The TyTN II is no lightweight device. It weighs more than the M3100 and much more than some of the Smartphones that I am used to. It’s also quite chunky in your pocket.
  • Display: It’s a pity that HTC didn’t squeeze a VGA screen in to the TyTN II, if Toshiba can do it with the G900 then why can’t HTC?
  • Battery Life: Although the TyTN II isn’t the most battery hungry device out there you’ll still find yourself having to charge the unit fairly regularly.

  • REVIEW

    So to get started with the device you’ll first have to install the battery. This has proven to be rather tricky for some. The rear cover of the TyTN II slides up and off and is quite stiff initially (take a look at my how-to video).

    You’ll also want to install your SIM card at this point as attempting to do so while the device is on simply turns it off, and rightly so. The SIM socket is under the back of the screen so you have to slide the screen open to access it.

    The first time you turn the device on it will take a while to get going, it will ask you to align the touchscreen and ask you questions about your location etc. and finally the customised ROM settings/applications are applied/installed before a quick, automatic reboot.

    First of all you’ll probably want to set up your internet/network connection. As you already installed your SIM card (you did install your SIM card right?!) a wizard pops up and asks if you want to automatically configure your device. If you say yes at this point the phone will set itself up and then reboot.

    TyTN II network wizard
    TyTN II network wizard

    So now you can set up your email. If you are using Exchange you can do this through activesync or if you are using pop3/Imap4 you’ll have to set this all up on the device. At this point I put in the details of my account and exchange server address. A few seconds later and the TyTN II starts to synchronise with Exchange and in no time at all the process is complete and I have all of my contacts and emails across. It’s very impressive how quickly this works which has a lot to do with the fact that I have HSDPA coverage.

    HSDPA!
    HSDPA!

    It’s at this point that I see that I have 4 unread emails and slide open the keyboard in order to reply. Then I realise that the jingle played each time the keyboard is opened or closed isn’t quite a fun or cool as I thought it was and decide to turn it off there and then. This is done under settings > keyboard sliding sound. That’s much better!

    The keyboard itself is a real pleasure to use. I’ve been used to the raised keys on the i600 which are ‘ok’ but the TyTN II is so much better! The keys have a nice tactile feel without being ‘clicky’ and in no time at all you can start typing at a fair rate with your thumbs. I think you’d have to have pretty small fingers to touch-type here though. The keys are backlit but the backlight only turns on when the conditions are dark enough, thus saving a little more power.

    Email replied to it’s now time to install the apps that I use most. Skype, Opera and CamerAware are the first to be installed. This all happens without a fuss and many of you will be pleased to know that Skype works on the TyTN II without a hiccup. Paul @ MoDaCo also tells me that, although existing versions of CamerAware will work on the TyTN II, he is working on an optimised version.

    Skype Works!
    Skype Works!

    I prefer Opera to Pocket IE but both work smoothly thanks to the decent CPU and fast 3G/HSDPA coverage.

    Time to have a play with the Camera. The 3.0 megapixel camera has been talked about quite a lot. 3.0 mp may seem poor by today’s standard 7mp+ digital cameras, but lets not forget that this is a mobile phone. With that in mind the quality of the photos taken with the TyTN II are pretty good and thanks to the auto focus even macro shots come out reasonably well. The camera application software has also undergone an update since the days of the TyTN and now you can use the front-facing VGA camera for taking pictures which is why you don't need the little mirror on the back.

    TyTN II distance shot
    TyTN II distance shot
    TyTN II macro shot
    TyTN II macro shot

    So on to the GPS on this puppy. I think that GPS will be the biggest reason for people to upgrade to the TyTN II. I do not use Sat Nav very often but this is mainly because I don’t want to carry an external Bluetooth GPS unit, turn it on, pair it, wait for a fix etc. Obviously the idea of a GPS enabled Windows Mobile device is nothing new, HTC themselves have released several in the past such as the HTC Trinity and the HTC Artemis but neither of these devices had a keyboard and I cant sacrifice a keyboard for GPS. Luckily the TyTN II does not force that sort of a compromise offering GPS and Keyboard in one package.

    Like the Orange M700 a number of people are initially confused looking for the GPS on the TyTN II. When they enter Comm Manager or look through the settings menu and programs list there is little to give away the fact that the device has built in GPS. There is no definitive GPS on/off switch, you simply enter a GPS enabled application and things should start to work.

    TyTN II Comm Manager
    TyTN II Comm Manager

    Eager to put this to the test I installed the version of TomTom that comes with the TyTN II. This is a cut down or ‘taster’ version of TomTom 6, it is the full application but you are limited to one city map download. Of course you can always buy more maps if you need to.

    After installation the first thing to do is run ‘QuickGPS’ which you’ll find in the program menu. This application uses any internet connection to download satellite lock information that is designed to improve the GPS signal acquisition time. The download is really quite small and there is no need to do this every time you want to use the GPS, the data it downloads is valid for around 7 days! The only problem I've had with quickGPS is that it wants to change the timezone. So far I'm not sure how to get round this.

    TyTN II quickGPS
    TyTN II quickGPS

    So how quickly do you get a satellite signal on the TyTN II? Very quickly is the simple answer. Turning TomTom on for the first time while standing outside I get a valid GPS signal in about 40 seconds. This is very impressive compared to the time it takes my M700 to acquire a lock. The tracking seems to be accurate with very little drift, certainly accurate enough for Sat Nav needs. Overall I'm impressed with the GPS.

    Finally, in order to test the horsepower of the TyTN II I installed The Core Pocket Media Player and watched a few sample videos. What amazed me here is that I was able to put a video clip on the internal storage memory of the device that was NOT optimised for pocket PC and despite the DivX video being 640 x 320 it played back without so much of a stutter! This is something that I’ve never been able to do on any other device.


    At this point I feel I should mention the stability of the TyTN II. I've had this retail unit for about 4 days and I've been using quite intensely, installed a variety of applications and generally given it rather a hammering. During this time I've experienced no stability problems at all, no forced reboots, no hang ups or crashes. This current ROM build seems to be rock solid!

    CONCLUSION

    The HTC TyTN II is an extremely impressive device, I’m an addict after just a few minutes. This really is the device that so many people have waiting for, no compromises, it includes the much needed keyboard, fast CPU and plenty of memory. The built in GPS is starting to become the norm and works well. The TyTN II may be on the heavy side but just think about all the technology crammed into such a small package!

    So would I recommend this device? You bet I would!

    Review by: Matt

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    Comments, Pingbacks:

    Comment from: rakh1 [Visitor]
    Some nice improvements over the TyTN include a half/full press camera button, LEDs that light on the keyboard when Caps/Fn are pressed, ability to take pics using the front camera as well as the back and the inclusion of the very impressive WorldCard software. Only downside for me so far is the lack of comms manager button and the time it takes to getting used to the keyboard flipping out the other way ;)
    PermalinkPermalink 07/09/07 @ 10:46
    Comment from: Aaron [Visitor]
    "and no gesture based swipes across the screen as these both require a more sensitive touchscreen technology"

    So there is no finger based scrolling on websites and applications as no the iphone?
    PermalinkPermalink 07/09/07 @ 12:39
    Comment from: Dave [Visitor]
    My colleague has a wm5 HP device and complains that appointment reminders and loss of phone network signal interrupts Tom Tom while driving. Have you seen any issues like this? He also has issues with hanging up a phone call sometimes taking repeated clicks on the screen.

    I want to be sure that hese issues are wm5/HP related before i commit to using WM6 as a phone device.

    TyTTN looks like a superb business tool. Great review.
    PermalinkPermalink 07/09/07 @ 12:52
    Comment from: Tariq Bamadhaj [Visitor] · http://www.etenblog.com
    Great review there. You're definitely making me itch to get it.
    PermalinkPermalink 07/09/07 @ 18:57
    Comment from: Wazio 22 [Visitor] · http://www.wazio22.com
    Absolute storm-trooper!!!
    Owning an M3100 for a year now, this little animal
    has all the features I’ve always wished
    it was kitted out with.
    All it needs now is a proper 3.5mm headphone jack
    & an RDS FM radio (better still DAB) & we’ll have
    the holy grail of handheld mobile communication devices.
    ...HTC have unleashed a serioulsy stonkin’ beast!

    iPhone... Bow in it's presence.
    PermalinkPermalink 07/09/07 @ 19:14
    Comment from: rai [Visitor] · http://www.aixos.ch
    Bahh, the HTC Trinity still is the best...until there is a device with VGA display I won't upgrade... maybe Eten X800, but I prefer HTC then I know I will get "support" from xda-developers.com ;-)
    PermalinkPermalink 07/09/07 @ 22:17
    Comment from: D [Visitor]
    I don't think you mentioned the function of the scroll wheel. How is it navigating with that and selecting items?
    PermalinkPermalink 08/09/07 @ 04:39
    Comment from: Jeff [Visitor] · http://www.mobile88.com
    Wow .. so fast the review. I think HTC is thinking of way to change the form factor for convergence device from 838pro to Dopod U1000 then TyTN II. This allow to put it on table and type instead on holding it (838pro) .
    PermalinkPermalink 08/09/07 @ 04:57
    Comment from: Matt [Member] Email · www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs
    The scroll wheel works just fine. Not much I can say about it really, it turns a full 360
    degrees, rather than one of those rockers, and you can press it to select an item.

    Matt
    PermalinkPermalink 08/09/07 @ 08:01
    Comment from: David D [Visitor]
    I have the tytn, and the scroll wheel is just an amazing thing ; it enabled me to nearly never use the stylus as you can do anything with it & the ok button.
    I do not want to change for another mobile because of the power of the scroll wheel.
    However now was the Tytn II born...
    Will I succomb to temptation ? Not sure, because the only thing I dislike in my Tytn is the weight... and the Tytn II is even heavier
    David (Paris)
    PermalinkPermalink 08/09/07 @ 10:08
    Comment from: TK Mehta [Visitor]
    i wanted to know if skype calls work well on this phone or not? i want to use skype out too.. would be very grateful if u could tell me. This is one big deciding factor in my buying this particular phone
    thanks so much
    PermalinkPermalink 08/09/07 @ 10:09
    Comment from: Matt [Member] Email · www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs
    Skype works perfectly well on the TyTN II, however, just like all the other Pocket PC based devices
    Skype calls only work via the speaker phone OR via the supplied wired headset.

    Matt
    PermalinkPermalink 08/09/07 @ 10:13
    Comment from: Dimitri [Visitor]
    Matt, as you mentioned in your review, one of the device lowlights is its weight. I have been reading different measurements on this. Are you in the position to make an accurate measurement of its weight so far?

    thank you
    PermalinkPermalink 08/09/07 @ 23:00
    Comment from: Dimitri [Visitor]
    Matt, just another quastion...do you know what is the max. microSD card it can handle? 2GB?
    PermalinkPermalink 08/09/07 @ 23:19
    Comment from: Matt [Member] Email · www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs
    The TyTN II can accept SDHC memory card so 4gb is no problem nor should 8gb be when available.

    The overall weight of the TyTN II, including battery and stylus is 192.2 grams.

    Matt
    PermalinkPermalink 09/09/07 @ 08:20
    Comment from: Andy Turner [Visitor]
    Having had the chance to play with both a Kaiser and a Touch in close proximity myself (at MEDC, Berlin), I don't see that TouchFlo is included *at all* in the Kaiser. Y'see, the Touch came with Touch-Flo (the fancy 3D cube, the gesture recognition in IE and other apps, and the flush screen), and *also* it came with the B&W today plug-in (which HTC call "HTC Home"), which whilst originally introduced on the Touch, isn't really part of Touch-Flo. So the Kaiser simply comes with that same "HTC Home" B&W today plug-in, and none of what you'd normally consider touch-flo appearance or operation.
    PermalinkPermalink 10/09/07 @ 12:37
    Comment from: Matt [Member] Email · www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs
    Andy,

    Agree with what you are saying, as I said in the review, on the TyTN II TouchFLO is nothing more than a home screen, and it does now look like TouchFLO has been removed from the official spec.

    Sheck out this screen shot:

    HTC TyTN II TouchFLO icon.

    Matt
    PermalinkPermalink 10/09/07 @ 13:54
    Comment from: David Anthony [Visitor]
    Thanks for a great review. Can't wait to get one. Any idea what networks will be selling it and under what names and how long will we have to wait? Cheers
    PermalinkPermalink 10/09/07 @ 18:00
    Comment from: Andres Herrera [Visitor]
    I have a question in the HTC site it says it does have the panning and scrolling functions, They don't exist then?
    PermalinkPermalink 10/09/07 @ 19:10
    Comment from: rakh1 [Visitor]
    I can pan and scroll with my thumb in web pages, etc. It is not great but it does work. The touchflow extends to scrolling down lists using your thumb to start and stop the scroll. It works but could be better if it were speed sensitive to how fast you *thumb* it...
    PermalinkPermalink 10/09/07 @ 21:20
    Comment from: Matt [Member] Email · www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs
    I've had limited success with this, it's more luck than anything else and is unreliable!

    Matt
    PermalinkPermalink 10/09/07 @ 21:25
    Comment from: Matt [Member] Email · www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs
    My guess is that it'll be on Vodafone within a month or so and Orange in about two months.

    As for the rest, who knows!?

    Matt
    PermalinkPermalink 10/09/07 @ 21:26
    Comment from: Andrew [Visitor]
    It looks like the home screen has been improved vs the Touch with 5 soft-buttons including a phone profiler. This looks like an improvement over the Touch.

    Does the Touch support this additional functionality or will it perhaps be upgraded to the five-button format?
    PermalinkPermalink 11/09/07 @ 06:20
    Comment from: Patrik [Visitor]
    Matt,
    Thanks for a great review, it looks like a II for me as well.
    But, you didn't mention anything about the screens performance outdoors.
    The TYTn really sucks in direct sunlight, totally impossible to see anything.
    I also have a Palm Treo 750, which in contrast is an absolute deligth to use outdoors as the screen is reflective. Even my old SE M600i is much better than TYTn.
    PermalinkPermalink 11/09/07 @ 09:23
    Comment from: Dimitri [Visitor]
    I have the TyTN II User Manual for Europe in my hands.
    How can I upload it for everybody to have a look at it?
    PermalinkPermalink 11/09/07 @ 14:28
    Comment from: Reload [Visitor]
    There seems to be a problem with the Kaiser. After finishing a phone call on the Kaiser the backlight goes off and stays off and one cannot access the Start menu. I can access all other functions but backlight stays off and one still cant get into the Start menu from anywhere on the screen. I have to press the power off button quickly once and then wait a second, press it again to be able to access the start button or the light to come on.
    PermalinkPermalink 11/09/07 @ 16:27
    Comment from: Chris Hoggarth [Visitor] · http://ChrisHoggarth
    I have had the HyTN II for two weeks now, and have experienced the following problems, which if anyone knows how to solve, I'd be grateful:

    1. The screen is awful in the daytime, and is almost impossible to see unless you are in a lot of shade.

    2. The backlight does not automatically come on when you touch the screen, which does not aid problem 1.

    3. The alarm function has problems too. I set the alarm for 0500 to go into London, and on the following day, changed the alarm to 0530, only to be woken by the alarm at 0500. This sounds strange as the alarm was not set for 0500. Likewise, the HyTen has three alarms, and one of the other alarms was not ticked to be activated, yet the alarm still sounded at the inputted time.

    4. The lock function is temperamental. The screen states that the device is locked, yet the buttons are still active.

    5. The touch screen with the stylus is not very responsive

    6. The time keeps changing to GMT +1, regardless of how many times I change it back to GMT.

    The pluses:-

    The email is superb, the screen size great, and the tilting screen awesome.

    My previous phone was the Imate KJam, and it didn’t have any of the above problems, although it did have some others, and unless I can resolve the above, I think that I might regret buying this. I hope that I don’t regret spending £480 on this, so any help on the above would be welcomed.

    Chris
    PermalinkPermalink 11/09/07 @ 22:34
    Comment from: Matt [Member] Email · www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs
    Chris,

    I can help you with your time problem on the TyTN II. I had the same issue and it seemed to be casued by the quickGPS application somehow. Go in to Phone > Settings > Time Zone and turn off the Automatic Change Time Zone and Clock setting.

    Matt
    PermalinkPermalink 12/09/07 @ 06:46
    Comment from: Mike [Visitor]
    Chris,
    Are you able to see the screen properly in bright sunlight outdoors? This is one of the major gripes I've had with the G900 because the screen's not transreflective so it's nigh unusable outdoors. I'd be surprised if the TytnII is like that since I didn't think HTC uses the same idiocy like Toshiba with their G900?

    Also you mention that the screen's not very responsive... can you let us know how it's like to draw using the standard 'Notes' application? My Hermes (Tytn) was horrid but the G900 excelled in this area, probably the only point worthy of being mentioned.

    Be pleased to hear from anyone on these 2 issues... thanks!
    PermalinkPermalink 13/09/07 @ 11:16
    Comment from: Sameh [Visitor]
    I can't find the HTC TyTN II as an option when downloading Skype 2.2 . How do I do it?

    It also doesn't come with any GPS software!!
    Any help?
    PermalinkPermalink 14/09/07 @ 00:28
    Comment from: rakh1 [Visitor]
    Have had no problems with the brightness of my screen. I did notice that by default it is on around half brightness setting when on battery (you cna bump this up). Also, it appears to time-out after calls etc and go half-off which is very dark. A simple on-off or touching the screen usually brings it back to full brightness again.
    PermalinkPermalink 15/09/07 @ 23:05
    Comment from: rakh1 [Visitor]
    Just download Skype 2.2 by saying you own one of the other devices - I do not think they are customised and it works for me.

    It *does* come with TomTom - it is on the accompanying CD.

    R
    PermalinkPermalink 15/09/07 @ 23:07
    Comment from: AG [Visitor]
    Do you know if it supports USB Host and A2DP?
    PermalinkPermalink 16/09/07 @ 01:59
    Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
    I am surprised that nobody noticed a big discrepancy - the official site of HTC does not mention that TyTN II has the HSUPA!!! They only say that upload is max 384, which means only HSDPA!! Strange, because it is known that chipset msm7200 is capable of HSUPA. Please explain what is the matter here!! I wanted to buy Kaiser because of HSUPA, but it seems that I have to wait for the next model not upgrade few months later..
    PermalinkPermalink 16/09/07 @ 11:15
    Comment from: ringy [Visitor]
    Fantastic and very helpful review Matt :o)

    After ditching my TyTN earlier this year due to continual hardware problems I am wary of taking up another HTC product.

    Can you confirm that the slider mechanism is better than the very weak TyTN one?

    Also, does it have a telescopic stylus?

    And, what colour are the keyboard backlights?

    Cheers!
    PermalinkPermalink 16/09/07 @ 18:15
    Comment from: KA [Visitor]
    I’ve got the HTC TytnII from Dubai GITEX last week and I did not get any GPS ýsoftware, I installed Google Map to try the GPS and the track location function did not ýwork with an Error “your GPS receiver does not appear to be responding"ý
    ý1- Is the TOMTOM GPS software, supplied only to USA CUSTOMER? ý
    ý2- How to check the GPS function, if I'm not supplied with software
    ý3- I have noticed that the device reset and start once after backup, is this normal, ý

    PermalinkPermalink 17/09/07 @ 05:36
    Comment from: baz [Visitor]
    T-mobile have this on their "coming soon" page as the
    "T mobile MDA Vario III"

    Lets hope they don't disable the Wi-fi like they did with the (MDA Compact III, Artemis, P3300, Xda Orbit)
    I have the XDA Orbit at the moment and looking at the TyTN II akes me see the short comings of the Orbit (no keyboard, very slow processor and constant crashes - less so now with WM6 but i stll have to reset the device a couple of times a week!)
    I must say after this review i'm considering jumping ship from O2 to T-mobile just to get this device of course it looks better in black though!
    PermalinkPermalink 17/09/07 @ 23:31
    Comment from: Casper [Visitor]
    Will this TyTN II work with a bluetooth stereo headset? A2DP, fx sony ericsson HBH-DS970?
    PermalinkPermalink 17/09/07 @ 23:40
    Comment from: Shawn [Visitor]
    AG: manual said it supports A2DP. I didn't check about USB host.
    PermalinkPermalink 20/09/07 @ 07:36
    Comment from: Micheal NAM [Visitor]
    The HTC TyTN 2 is simply the best of PDA's.
    PermalinkPermalink 20/09/07 @ 09:07
    Comment from: DKapur [Visitor]
    i am facing the same problem with google maps. The track location function did not work with an Error “your GPS receiver does not appear to be responding". Any Solution to this problem?
    PermalinkPermalink 20/09/07 @ 15:55
    Comment from: DKapur [Visitor]
    i am facing the same problem with google maps. The track location function did not work with an Error “your GPS receiver does not appear to be responding". Any Solution to this problem?
    PermalinkPermalink 20/09/07 @ 15:56
    Comment from: Jamie Ward [Visitor]
    Hi Matt I just needed a little advice as this is my first luanch into this kind of phone. I am looking at upgrading to this or the N95. I dont want to lose the ease of my regular phone but need the office use too. Which would you suggest as they both have similar pricing etc.?
    Thanks
    Jamie
    PermalinkPermalink 22/09/07 @ 12:44
    Comment from: Tony [Visitor]
    I just bought the Tytn II and I am checking if someone can tell me what is the fast way to use GPS, Because the box does not include any GPS Software? Thank you
    PermalinkPermalink 22/09/07 @ 14:09
    Comment from: Micheal [Visitor]
    Good day.Matt!
    This is an astonishing review of the htc tytn 2.Am so much in love with this device that i have choosed it as my ideal phone for life. But am skeptical over some posted comments by some visitors.Chris Hoggarth said in his comment "2. The backlight does not automatically come on when you touch the screen, which does not aid problem"
    I just want to verify the authentisity of this claim.And if it's true, Is there any remedy to this particuler problem or subsequent prodution would come adjusted? Pls reply michealnam@yahoo.com
    PermalinkPermalink 23/09/07 @ 18:51
    Comment from: Micheal [Visitor]
    Hi Matt! I just want to ask u whether this claim by Chris Hoggarth is true. He said in his comment that "The backlight does not automatically come on when you touch the screen" Pls reply me. Thanks! Your fan.
    PermalinkPermalink 23/09/07 @ 19:00
    Comment from: Micheal [Visitor]
    Matt i want to know whether is true. the back light does not automatically comes on when this device is touched?
    PermalinkPermalink 23/09/07 @ 19:05
    Comment from: Matt [Member] Email · www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs
    You can change the settings on the device so that the screen either does or does not come on when you tap it. You can also lock the screen and buttons so that only the power button will wake the device.

    Matt
    PermalinkPermalink 23/09/07 @ 19:44
    Comment from: Rick [Visitor]
    Major flaw is backlight turn off in 10 seconds during any phone call on batteries.

    This happen no matter what you set the backlight and power settings (even if both are set to 5 minutes; the phone screen will turn off in 10 seconds during a phone call). To me this is a major flaw as I cant type in a number when i call my voice mail to delete or save a voice mail message as the screen turns off. Also, it makes where i cant set an appointment or take a notes or other things because if i am not type anything for 10 seconds; the screen goes dark making me have to hit the power button again - a real pain in the you know what. I called htc tech support but they said it was way it was suppose to work as it saves battery power; the only problem is that this essentially disable being able to do anything else during a phone call impossible or very difficult as you continuously have to hit the power button. To me, htc should at least give the use the option to keep the backlight on during a phone call. I would rather sacrifice battery power than lose the ability to do anything during a phone including something essential such as hitting a number to delete or save a voice mail message. This is a major flaw that htc needs to fix; but htc says its the way its suppose to work?? At least HTC should give the user the option to override this setting; i guess we will have to wait and see.
    PermalinkPermalink 25/09/07 @ 00:15
    Comment from: adam [Visitor]
    My collegue and I just bought two of these for use at work. One came bundled with the Tom Tom software (even had a Tom Tom sticker on the box) and one did not (no sticker on box).... We have managed to install the software on both devices and works a treat.

    Just thought I'd mention it as noticed some people here said they did not get any Tom Tom SW with their device! Seems as though the older devices do not have the SW bundled...
    PermalinkPermalink 25/09/07 @ 13:10
    Comment from: Relly [Visitor]
    Hi Matt, You said that this works fine with skype 2.2 but only with speaker phone option or headset just like other device. But I'm using skype 2.2 with my gigabyte x-bond, and it works fine even without using headset or the speaker phone option. My question here is, will the vga camera works as a webcam for skype during a skype video call like on skype for windows client?

    And how do you find using the opera browser? how was your surfing experience?

    tnx!
    PermalinkPermalink 26/09/07 @ 23:28
    Comment from: kms [Visitor]
    I have read through the post and ppl have mention that the touch flo included is just the home screen, I have the hong kong version and the touch flo is included, which operates the contacts and IE web browser and the menu, which is very flexible and easy to use. also the Hong Kong version comes with two CD, one contains the active sync, windows outlook 60 days trial, the other has sprite backup, gprs monitor, worldcard mobile and ce-star (allow english version tytn 2 to display chinese and japanese and also write, using stylus write recognition and keypad type.
    I also have a full version mapking 2007 GPS program that I got free with the P3600I, which works very well with the tytn2.

    All in all i'm very happy with this phone, only one dissapointment was, my first unit has a dead pixel, so i had to wait a few days for a new unit, as most of them are in chinese, I wanted a english versions, I spoken to the shop, they said that many customers returned the tytn 2, for exchange for this reasons.

    If anyone needs to check and repair dead pixels, I have two programs that will do this, just post up here or expansys forum..

    kms
    PermalinkPermalink 27/09/07 @ 07:05
    Comment from: Kay Adegboyegin [Visitor]
    While I cannot deny that TyTN II is a good device, my experience with this device has not been the best. The flaws that I have found so far are:-
    1/ The backlight goes off about 10 seconds after you start a phone call. Therefore you cannot take note after that nor can you respond to a voicemail by tapping a number on this dark screen.
    2/ The screen does not respond after about five minutes or more of taking a call and you cannot access the start button.
    3/ The on-screen keyboard does not have CAP key so that you can type continuously in uppercase letters. However, I just stumbled into a solution to this problem and I found out how to type in uppercase letters without having to press the shift key before each letter.
    4/ The worst problem that bothers me most is the battery life. If you make two phone calls lasting about 15 minutes each, my battery life is reduced by about half. Even with my XDA II (with probably the worst battery life) which I used for 4 years, my battery life will not be reduced to half by a 30 minute call.
    As I have not tested many other aspect of this phone,who knows what other faults there are!
    The last information I got about this phone is that a ROM is near release that may correct some of these problems. Does anybody have any information about this and how many of the problems it will solve? Otherwise, I will return the phone for refund.
    Kay.
    PermalinkPermalink 28/09/07 @ 03:09
    Comment from: scc [Visitor]
    TO: kms

    Pls post up your program to check and repair dead pixels.

    Appeciate your advice on the following for HK version:
    - How can I use windows outlook after the 60-day trial?
    - Is TomTom software included in the bundle?
    - How can I download more than 1 country map with TomTom?
    - Does HK's 1010 still offer English version of TyTNII with
    ce-star?

    Cheers,
    scc
    PermalinkPermalink 30/09/07 @ 06:19
    Comment from: SK [Visitor]
    Any idea when this will be released in India? Great
    review Matt!

    -SK
    PermalinkPermalink 30/09/07 @ 23:30
    Comment from: kms [Visitor]
    @scc

    to continue with outlook, you will need to pay and register with a new key, this will allow continuous use, but there are ways around this, but cannot mention it here.

    all official hk version tytn 2 is supplied by synergy, the english version all comes with ce-star, tom tom software is supplied with the tytn if bought from a different county.

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/crm24i
    PermalinkPermalink 01/10/07 @ 03:44
    Comment from: Emma [Visitor] · http://TyTNII v Vario III
    My local T Mobile outlet gives me strange looks when I
    keep going in to ask about the Vario III - saying it
    will be months before it is available. Am considering
    buying the HTC hardware and taking out a tMobile
    contract with web 'n'walk and just using the sim card
    in the HTC device. Does anybody know if this will work?

    Many thanks
    PermalinkPermalink 01/10/07 @ 20:35
    Comment from: Matt [Member] Email · www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs
    Emma, my colleague just ordered the Vario III from T-Mobile and they said he'll receive it this week, I'll let you know if it turns up!

    Matt
    PermalinkPermalink 01/10/07 @ 20:39
    Comment from: Mick [Visitor]
    Emma,

    I ordered 2 Vario III last Thurs. One turned up Friday, the other this morning. Ref your other question - I bought an HTC P3600 about 4 months ago and did exactly what you're proposing - it worked fine

    PermalinkPermalink 01/10/07 @ 22:00
    Comment from: guest [Visitor]
    I bought this phone 2 days ago in USA
    1. IT DIDN't have Tom Tom S/w
    2. google maps doesn't reognize the gps
    3. it's bothering when screen turns off during a call
    4. I installed few programs and all of the sudden SMS doesn't work, I receive sms but I can't open it, when I double click nothing happens, MMS still works fine though?!
    5. I tried to cpoy pim.vol from my WM5 MDA to copy my contacts over, it didn't recognize it!
    Thanks for the review
    PermalinkPermalink 03/10/07 @ 14:54
    Comment from: robert [Visitor]
    what would be the best plan from AT&T to take advantage of this phone.
    PermalinkPermalink 04/10/07 @ 02:44
    Comment from: Kurt [Visitor]
    I have reserved one of these phones today and i am collecting it tomorrow from my local T-Mobile store.

    I also had a go on this phone and it is brilliant.

    I cant wait to get it :P
    PermalinkPermalink 05/10/07 @ 01:37
    Comment from: robert a [Visitor]
    To Kurt: How much / what town and on what tarriff?
    So that we can all get a good deal.
    PermalinkPermalink 05/10/07 @ 04:11
    Comment from: Nick Price [Visitor]
    Does this phone have IR capability? The original TyTN definitely does - I use it when I can't be bothered to fight Bluetooth to transfer a file on my laptop, and it also does a fair job with the remote control software available out there...

    On the Bluetooth front, how quick is it to get device names? My TyTN detects devices as "Unknown Device", and can take 30 seconds or more to get the device name - very frustrating when you want to send a file to a friend, but not the random stranger across the room!
    PermalinkPermalink 05/10/07 @ 14:46
    Comment from: Salvatore [Visitor]
    Hi Matt! You said you installed The Core Pocket Media Player on the Tytn II and it works perfectly: where can I find that program? Thanx
    PermalinkPermalink 06/10/07 @ 11:18
    Comment from: Rose of Sharon [Visitor] · http://bolaji@roseofsharon.co.uk
    The TyTN has several issues: the time zone keeps changing to GMT+1 Prague altering the time in the process. The alarm sometimes rings early and randomly. Further the Tasks filter does not work for active tasks. My phone had a problem logging to the Vodafone network and would not connect or receive calls but would randomly connect and disconnect irrespective of location. The phone had to be returned.
    PermalinkPermalink 06/10/07 @ 17:15
    Comment from: kms [Visitor] · http://www.sendspace.com/file/crm24i
    @Salvatore

    you can google it.


    kms
    PermalinkPermalink 07/10/07 @ 15:56
    Comment from: Rick [Visitor]
    Can anyone tell me the difference between the HTC TyTn II and the AT&T Tilt? Which is the best phone to buy? The TyTn II comes with Tom Tom GPS software that does not have any monthly charge. The AT&T phone charges $10 per month to access GPS. Are there any other reasons I would want to buy the TyTn II over the AT&T Tilt?
    Thanks
    PermalinkPermalink 08/10/07 @ 09:02
    Comment from: Dev [Visitor]
    Wow, now I'm confused! I was all set to get the Orange SPV M700 then they told me this little baby is coming out in 2 weeks and I'm torn between the 2. This one has a better camera but is a bit bulky. Looks like neither have FM radio reception. I've been put off the M700 by reports on this site that the sound quality when listening to music is terrible and thats going to be important to me. Is the sound quality on this device any better? Thanks
    PermalinkPermalink 10/10/07 @ 12:51
    Comment from: Jon [Visitor]
    Hi Can you play videos/DVDs on the HTC tytn II? Just wondering. Thanks
    PermalinkPermalink 10/10/07 @ 13:50
    Comment from: Deepdivedog [Visitor]
    Hi - Just got the device and loving it already. However...How do I store My Pictures and My Videos in the respective windows files but have the actual files located on the memory card rather than the device? Please help. Thanks.
    PermalinkPermalink 10/10/07 @ 17:50
    Comment from: John [Visitor] · http://www.superetrader.co.uk/
    I currently own a HTC TyTN which I bought from superetrader.co.uk, and am looking to upgrade to the new HTC TyTN II.
    Its it worth upgrading? I thinking about getting this TomTom Bundle:

    http://www.superetrader.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=0_566_577&products_id=2723
    PermalinkPermalink 11/10/07 @ 13:33
    Comment from: Toby [Visitor]
    Anyone got a date for the Orange Uk release yet pls? I see it's out from Voda already! Cheers & great review Matt!
    PermalinkPermalink 11/10/07 @ 23:52
    Comment from: Matt [Member] Email · www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs
    Thanks! There is no official release date for the TyTN II on the Orange network but we suspect that it'll be sometime in November.

    Matt
    PermalinkPermalink 12/10/07 @ 06:31
    Comment from: Yanoster [Visitor]
    MAT my boyfriend offered to have same phone like him(htc tytn II).We are in France and im not so good in french language.Forgot to tell him buy for me english version,because i thought i can easily change phone setting into english language like nokia phones.Any solution for this?
    merci
    yanos!!!
    PermalinkPermalink 13/10/07 @ 00:20
    Comment from: Lunar [Visitor]
    Great review... I want one.. Can anybody tell though whether the front cam can be used as a webcam when using Yahoo Mesenger or Skype?
    PermalinkPermalink 14/10/07 @ 21:20
    Comment from: MRK [Visitor]
    I have the TyTN II and i have problems with the GPS. whenever i have tried it diplays no data received. i have tried it on many places and still unable to get it to work. I have tried all, google maps, live search, tom tom and called htc support and they have said that they will send the TOM TOM software within the next two weeks.Are there any settings to be done to get it working. So far everyone whom i have asked has been saying all of the above are working perfectly. appreciate your assistance.
    PermalinkPermalink 15/10/07 @ 05:46
    Comment from: kms [Visitor]
    try to stay at a large open field , and on the first setup, it will take longer, setup will depend on which software you are running, i have the mapking which did take me a long time to setup, but works perfect.

    you can also search for yahoo go, the software has a function that supports GPS which is quite useful.

    good luck


    kms
    PermalinkPermalink 15/10/07 @ 09:44
    Comment from: Nicole Mathison [Visitor]
    Despite this phone having fantastic features and being otherwise everything I require I've realised I'm going to have to return it to Vodafone for a refund as the serious usability issue with the inactive screen 15 secs after making/receiving calls.

    It's just such a pity because the design is great and the applications are perfect - I can't believe HTC's testers didn't raise the screen backlight issue as a major problem given it voids most of the useful phone features when on a call given pressing the Power button to make it visible is so irritating (and this backlight problem, as mentioned above, can't be got around through any settings we can control).

    PermalinkPermalink 15/10/07 @ 12:03
    Comment from: Steven [Visitor]
    just to let you know orange have released the phone HTC tytn II

    Had a look at onein an orange shop they have not branded it an SPV but they have removed messenger i could not seem to fine it.

    Are you able to get that from some