HTC TyTN II review
September 7th, 2007
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Does the new HTC TyTN II live up to the hype?
INTRODUCTION
I think it’s fair to say that the HTC Kaiser is the worst kept Windows Mobile secret ever! Looking back at the posts on our site it was almost a year ago that we first mentioned HTC’s new device. Since then rumour and speculation have been the order of the day with the odd ‘leak’ from HTC thrown in.

To be fair, it does look like HTC have been managing the flow of information quite well and the little bits of info have only served to further heighten the interest in the device.
As I’m sure you’re all aware, the HTC Kaiser (aka HTC P4550) had its name officially changed to HTC TyTN II just a few weeks ago.
This isn’t our first look at the device, we have been lucky enough to fondle a couple of demo units over the past few months, but this review will be based solely upon the TyTN II retail unit we received earlier this week.
What’s in the Box?
By now you should have seen my TyTN II unboxing video (if not go have a look now!).
The TyTN II comes in the standard HTC black box and is presented in much the same way as the HTC Touch; the device sits right on top surrounded by black foam. The flap on the front of the box is secured by a magnet.

Inside you’ll find:
TyTN II Hardware Specification:
GENERAL
At just 110x58x18mm it’s a full 4mm thinner than the original TyTN and is only a few grams heavier, its size is comparable to the HTC Trinity (Orange M700).
On the front of the TyTN II you’ll find the usual 5-way d-pad, a couple of soft keys, 'send' and 'end' phone buttons, an IE button, Email button, Windows Button and, finally, an OK button.

Just above the screen you’ll notice a front-facing VGA camera for 3G video conferencing.
Looking to the bottom of the unit there’s a microSD card slot (just below the navigation buttons) which comes complete with a plastic dust cover. There’s also an ExtUSB connector for sync/charge and audio. Next to that a reset button and the space for the full-size stylus.

On the right hand side are power and camera buttons.

And on the left a scroll wheel along with OK and voice notes buttons.

Turning the device over reveals the loudspeaker and a 3.0 megapixel camera. Note that there is no flash or mirror however. It’s also on the back that you’ll find the biggest give away one of the TyTN II’s best features; built in GPS as indicated by the large rubber cover over the external GPS antenna socket. More on this later.

It’s not until you slide the screen open that you discover the TyTN II’s best party trick; the tilting screen. The spring loaded screen slides back to reveal a full QWERTY keyboard which has decent sized keys that are slightly raised which makes them pretty easy to use. You also get a couple of indicator LED’s that show you the Caps and Function status.

I have to admit that I wasn’t sure about that tilting screen, and didn’t think that it would be that useful or practical. However, in practice I have to say this is a great idea! The TyTN II sits neatly on my desk and with the screen tilted it’s easy to see the display and it looks like a baby laptop.

In the past, some HTC devices have been affected by problems with touchscreen alignment, but you shouldn’t have any problems with the TyTN II in this department. The 240 x 320 display is clear and bright and also seems not to suffer from yellow colour cast that has been common on earlier devices.
The keyboard has a nice positive action to it and works extremely well. It’s virtually identical to the HTC Herald, and very similar to the HTC TyTN. Holding the device in both hands it’s easy to type at a fair rate using just your thumbs.
Finally, to insert a SIM card you have to slide the keyboard open and then look on the rear of the screen. Under a flap you’ll find the SIM card slot.

SOFTWARE
This final production build of the ROM varies in a number of ways to the demo units we’ve seen so far. The most obvious addition is TouchFLO. Don’t expect the TouchFLO experience to be the same as the HTC Touch, however, as this is a somewhat cut down implementation of the technology and is limited to a home screen plug in offering a large digital style clock, favorite people speed dials, local weather, a quick launch tool and profile controls. You won’t find the 3D cube on the TyTN II and no gesture based swipes across the screen as these both require a more sensitive touchscreen technology. That said, I think that HTC have included the best features of TouchFLO anyway.

Naturally, that TyTN II runs Windows Mobile 6 professional and works fantastically well. The WM6 UI tweaks coupled with that 400mhz CPU and the additional RAM mean that the device flies along quite nicely, switching between screens and bringing up the start menu rapidly. The difference is very noticeable compared to my Samsung i600!
As this is an HTC branded device it’s a fairly standard build of WM6, there are a couple of HTC customisations, ie. TouchFLO and Task Manager but you wont find any operator specific home screens and no one has removed Windows Live Messenger or played around with the icons. Naturally as operators begin to release their own versions of the TyTN II we’ll see more customised versions of the ROM.
Highlights:
Lowlights:
REVIEW
So to get started with the device you’ll first have to install the battery. This has proven to be rather tricky for some. The rear cover of the TyTN II slides up and off and is quite stiff initially (take a look at my how-to video).
You’ll also want to install your SIM card at this point as attempting to do so while the device is on simply turns it off, and rightly so. The SIM socket is under the back of the screen so you have to slide the screen open to access it.
The first time you turn the device on it will take a while to get going, it will ask you to align the touchscreen and ask you questions about your location etc. and finally the customised ROM settings/applications are applied/installed before a quick, automatic reboot.
First of all you’ll probably want to set up your internet/network connection. As you already installed your SIM card (you did install your SIM card right?!) a wizard pops up and asks if you want to automatically configure your device. If you say yes at this point the phone will set itself up and then reboot.

So now you can set up your email. If you are using Exchange you can do this through activesync or if you are using pop3/Imap4 you’ll have to set this all up on the device. At this point I put in the details of my account and exchange server address. A few seconds later and the TyTN II starts to synchronise with Exchange and in no time at all the process is complete and I have all of my contacts and emails across. It’s very impressive how quickly this works which has a lot to do with the fact that I have HSDPA coverage.
It’s at this point that I see that I have 4 unread emails and slide open the keyboard in order to reply. Then I realise that the jingle played each time the keyboard is opened or closed isn’t quite a fun or cool as I thought it was and decide to turn it off there and then. This is done under settings > keyboard sliding sound. That’s much better!
The keyboard itself is a real pleasure to use. I’ve been used to the raised keys on the i600 which are ‘ok’ but the TyTN II is so much better! The keys have a nice tactile feel without being ‘clicky’ and in no time at all you can start typing at a fair rate with your thumbs. I think you’d have to have pretty small fingers to touch-type here though. The keys are backlit but the backlight only turns on when the conditions are dark enough, thus saving a little more power.
Email replied to it’s now time to install the apps that I use most. Skype, Opera and CamerAware are the first to be installed. This all happens without a fuss and many of you will be pleased to know that Skype works on the TyTN II without a hiccup. Paul @ MoDaCo also tells me that, although existing versions of CamerAware will work on the TyTN II, he is working on an optimised version.

I prefer Opera to Pocket IE but both work smoothly thanks to the decent CPU and fast 3G/HSDPA coverage.
Time to have a play with the Camera. The 3.0 megapixel camera has been talked about quite a lot. 3.0 mp may seem poor by today’s standard 7mp+ digital cameras, but lets not forget that this is a mobile phone. With that in mind the quality of the photos taken with the TyTN II are pretty good and thanks to the auto focus even macro shots come out reasonably well. The camera application software has also undergone an update since the days of the TyTN and now you can use the front-facing VGA camera for taking pictures which is why you don't need the little mirror on the back.


So on to the GPS on this puppy. I think that GPS will be the biggest reason for people to upgrade to the TyTN II. I do not use Sat Nav very often but this is mainly because I don’t want to carry an external Bluetooth GPS unit, turn it on, pair it, wait for a fix etc. Obviously the idea of a GPS enabled Windows Mobile device is nothing new, HTC themselves have released several in the past such as the HTC Trinity and the HTC Artemis but neither of these devices had a keyboard and I cant sacrifice a keyboard for GPS. Luckily the TyTN II does not force that sort of a compromise offering GPS and Keyboard in one package.
Like the Orange M700 a number of people are initially confused looking for the GPS on the TyTN II. When they enter Comm Manager or look through the settings menu and programs list there is little to give away the fact that the device has built in GPS. There is no definitive GPS on/off switch, you simply enter a GPS enabled application and things should start to work.

Eager to put this to the test I installed the version of TomTom that comes with the TyTN II. This is a cut down or ‘taster’ version of TomTom 6, it is the full application but you are limited to one city map download. Of course you can always buy more maps if you need to.
After installation the first thing to do is run ‘QuickGPS’ which you’ll find in the program menu. This application uses any internet connection to download satellite lock information that is designed to improve the GPS signal acquisition time. The download is really quite small and there is no need to do this every time you want to use the GPS, the data it downloads is valid for around 7 days! The only problem I've had with quickGPS is that it wants to change the timezone. So far I'm not sure how to get round this.

So how quickly do you get a satellite signal on the TyTN II? Very quickly is the simple answer. Turning TomTom on for the first time while standing outside I get a valid GPS signal in about 40 seconds. This is very impressive compared to the time it takes my M700 to acquire a lock. The tracking seems to be accurate with very little drift, certainly accurate enough for Sat Nav needs. Overall I'm impressed with the GPS.
Finally, in order to test the horsepower of the TyTN II I installed The Core Pocket Media Player and watched a few sample videos. What amazed me here is that I was able to put a video clip on the internal storage memory of the device that was NOT optimised for pocket PC and despite the DivX video being 640 x 320 it played back without so much of a stutter! This is something that I’ve never been able to do on any other device.
At this point I feel I should mention the stability of the TyTN II. I've had this retail unit for about 4 days and I've been using quite intensely, installed a variety of applications and generally given it rather a hammering. During this time I've experienced no stability problems at all, no forced reboots, no hang ups or crashes. This current ROM build seems to be rock solid!
CONCLUSION
The HTC TyTN II is an extremely impressive device, I’m an addict after just a few minutes. This really is the device that so many people have waiting for, no compromises, it includes the much needed keyboard, fast CPU and plenty of memory. The built in GPS is starting to become the norm and works well. The TyTN II may be on the heavy side but just think about all the technology crammed into such a small package!
So would I recommend this device? You bet I would!
Review by: Matt
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Comments, Pingbacks:
So there is no finger based scrolling on websites and applications as no the iphone?
I want to be sure that hese issues are wm5/HP related before i commit to using WM6 as a phone device.
TyTTN looks like a superb business tool. Great review.
Owning an M3100 for a year now, this little animal
has all the features I’ve always wished
it was kitted out with.
All it needs now is a proper 3.5mm headphone jack
& an RDS FM radio (better still DAB) & we’ll have
the holy grail of handheld mobile communication devices.
...HTC have unleashed a serioulsy stonkin’ beast!
iPhone... Bow in it's presence.
degrees, rather than one of those rockers, and you can press it to select an item.
Matt
I do not want to change for another mobile because of the power of the scroll wheel.
However now was the Tytn II born...
Will I succomb to temptation ? Not sure, because the only thing I dislike in my Tytn is the weight... and the Tytn II is even heavier
David (Paris)
thanks so much
Skype calls only work via the speaker phone OR via the supplied wired headset.
Matt
thank you
The overall weight of the TyTN II, including battery and stylus is 192.2 grams.
Matt
Agree with what you are saying, as I said in the review, on the TyTN II TouchFLO is nothing more than a home screen, and it does now look like TouchFLO has been removed from the official spec.
Sheck out this screen shot:
HTC TyTN II TouchFLO icon.
Matt
Matt
As for the rest, who knows!?
Matt
Does the Touch support this additional functionality or will it perhaps be upgraded to the five-button format?
Thanks for a great review, it looks like a II for me as well.
But, you didn't mention anything about the screens performance outdoors.
The TYTn really sucks in direct sunlight, totally impossible to see anything.
I also have a Palm Treo 750, which in contrast is an absolute deligth to use outdoors as the screen is reflective. Even my old SE M600i is much better than TYTn.
How can I upload it for everybody to have a look at it?
1. The screen is awful in the daytime, and is almost impossible to see unless you are in a lot of shade.
2. The backlight does not automatically come on when you touch the screen, which does not aid problem 1.
3. The alarm function has problems too. I set the alarm for 0500 to go into London, and on the following day, changed the alarm to 0530, only to be woken by the alarm at 0500. This sounds strange as the alarm was not set for 0500. Likewise, the HyTen has three alarms, and one of the other alarms was not ticked to be activated, yet the alarm still sounded at the inputted time.
4. The lock function is temperamental. The screen states that the device is locked, yet the buttons are still active.
5. The touch screen with the stylus is not very responsive
6. The time keeps changing to GMT +1, regardless of how many times I change it back to GMT.
The pluses:-
The email is superb, the screen size great, and the tilting screen awesome.
My previous phone was the Imate KJam, and it didn’t have any of the above problems, although it did have some others, and unless I can resolve the above, I think that I might regret buying this. I hope that I don’t regret spending £480 on this, so any help on the above would be welcomed.
Chris
I can help you with your time problem on the TyTN II. I had the same issue and it seemed to be casued by the quickGPS application somehow. Go in to Phone > Settings > Time Zone and turn off the Automatic Change Time Zone and Clock setting.
Matt
Are you able to see the screen properly in bright sunlight outdoors? This is one of the major gripes I've had with the G900 because the screen's not transreflective so it's nigh unusable outdoors. I'd be surprised if the TytnII is like that since I didn't think HTC uses the same idiocy like Toshiba with their G900?
Also you mention that the screen's not very responsive... can you let us know how it's like to draw using the standard 'Notes' application? My Hermes (Tytn) was horrid but the G900 excelled in this area, probably the only point worthy of being mentioned.
Be pleased to hear from anyone on these 2 issues... thanks!
It also doesn't come with any GPS software!!
Any help?
It *does* come with TomTom - it is on the accompanying CD.
R
After ditching my TyTN earlier this year due to continual hardware problems I am wary of taking up another HTC product.
Can you confirm that the slider mechanism is better than the very weak TyTN one?
Also, does it have a telescopic stylus?
And, what colour are the keyboard backlights?
Cheers!
ý1- Is the TOMTOM GPS software, supplied only to USA CUSTOMER? ý
ý2- How to check the GPS function, if I'm not supplied with software
ý3- I have noticed that the device reset and start once after backup, is this normal, ý
"T mobile MDA Vario III"
Lets hope they don't disable the Wi-fi like they did with the (MDA Compact III, Artemis, P3300, Xda Orbit)
I have the XDA Orbit at the moment and looking at the TyTN II akes me see the short comings of the Orbit (no keyboard, very slow processor and constant crashes - less so now with WM6 but i stll have to reset the device a couple of times a week!)
I must say after this review i'm considering jumping ship from O2 to T-mobile just to get this device of course it looks better in black though!
Thanks
Jamie
This is an astonishing review of the htc tytn 2.Am so much in love with this device that i have choosed it as my ideal phone for life. But am skeptical over some posted comments by some visitors.Chris Hoggarth said in his comment "2. The backlight does not automatically come on when you touch the screen, which does not aid problem"
I just want to verify the authentisity of this claim.And if it's true, Is there any remedy to this particuler problem or subsequent prodution would come adjusted? Pls reply michealnam@yahoo.com
Matt
This happen no matter what you set the backlight and power settings (even if both are set to 5 minutes; the phone screen will turn off in 10 seconds during a phone call). To me this is a major flaw as I cant type in a number when i call my voice mail to delete or save a voice mail message as the screen turns off. Also, it makes where i cant set an appointment or take a notes or other things because if i am not type anything for 10 seconds; the screen goes dark making me have to hit the power button again - a real pain in the you know what. I called htc tech support but they said it was way it was suppose to work as it saves battery power; the only problem is that this essentially disable being able to do anything else during a phone call impossible or very difficult as you continuously have to hit the power button. To me, htc should at least give the use the option to keep the backlight on during a phone call. I would rather sacrifice battery power than lose the ability to do anything during a phone including something essential such as hitting a number to delete or save a voice mail message. This is a major flaw that htc needs to fix; but htc says its the way its suppose to work?? At least HTC should give the user the option to override this setting; i guess we will have to wait and see.
Just thought I'd mention it as noticed some people here said they did not get any Tom Tom SW with their device! Seems as though the older devices do not have the SW bundled...
And how do you find using the opera browser? how was your surfing experience?
tnx!
I also have a full version mapking 2007 GPS program that I got free with the P3600I, which works very well with the tytn2.
All in all i'm very happy with this phone, only one dissapointment was, my first unit has a dead pixel, so i had to wait a few days for a new unit, as most of them are in chinese, I wanted a english versions, I spoken to the shop, they said that many customers returned the tytn 2, for exchange for this reasons.
If anyone needs to check and repair dead pixels, I have two programs that will do this, just post up here or expansys forum..
kms
1/ The backlight goes off about 10 seconds after you start a phone call. Therefore you cannot take note after that nor can you respond to a voicemail by tapping a number on this dark screen.
2/ The screen does not respond after about five minutes or more of taking a call and you cannot access the start button.
3/ The on-screen keyboard does not have CAP key so that you can type continuously in uppercase letters. However, I just stumbled into a solution to this problem and I found out how to type in uppercase letters without having to press the shift key before each letter.
4/ The worst problem that bothers me most is the battery life. If you make two phone calls lasting about 15 minutes each, my battery life is reduced by about half. Even with my XDA II (with probably the worst battery life) which I used for 4 years, my battery life will not be reduced to half by a 30 minute call.
As I have not tested many other aspect of this phone,who knows what other faults there are!
The last information I got about this phone is that a ROM is near release that may correct some of these problems. Does anybody have any information about this and how many of the problems it will solve? Otherwise, I will return the phone for refund.
Kay.
Pls post up your program to check and repair dead pixels.
Appeciate your advice on the following for HK version:
- How can I use windows outlook after the 60-day trial?
- Is TomTom software included in the bundle?
- How can I download more than 1 country map with TomTom?
- Does HK's 1010 still offer English version of TyTNII with
ce-star?
Cheers,
scc
review Matt!
-SK
to continue with outlook, you will need to pay and register with a new key, this will allow continuous use, but there are ways around this, but cannot mention it here.
all official hk version tytn 2 is supplied by synergy, the english version all comes with ce-star, tom tom software is supplied with the tytn if bought from a different county.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/crm24i
keep going in to ask about the Vario III - saying it
will be months before it is available. Am considering
buying the HTC hardware and taking out a tMobile
contract with web 'n'walk and just using the sim card
in the HTC device. Does anybody know if this will work?
Many thanks
Matt
I ordered 2 Vario III last Thurs. One turned up Friday, the other this morning. Ref your other question - I bought an HTC P3600 about 4 months ago and did exactly what you're proposing - it worked fine
1. IT DIDN't have Tom Tom S/w
2. google maps doesn't reognize the gps
3. it's bothering when screen turns off during a call
4. I installed few programs and all of the sudden SMS doesn't work, I receive sms but I can't open it, when I double click nothing happens, MMS still works fine though?!
5. I tried to cpoy pim.vol from my WM5 MDA to copy my contacts over, it didn't recognize it!
Thanks for the review
I also had a go on this phone and it is brilliant.
I cant wait to get it :P
So that we can all get a good deal.
On the Bluetooth front, how quick is it to get device names? My TyTN detects devices as "Unknown Device", and can take 30 seconds or more to get the device name - very frustrating when you want to send a file to a friend, but not the random stranger across the room!
you can google it.
kms
Thanks
Its it worth upgrading? I thinking about getting this TomTom Bundle:
http://www.superetrader.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=0_566_577&products_id=2723
Matt
merci
yanos!!!
you can also search for yahoo go, the software has a function that supports GPS which is quite useful.
good luck
kms
It's just such a pity because the design is great and the applications are perfect - I can't believe HTC's testers didn't raise the screen backlight issue as a major problem given it voids most of the useful phone features when on a call given pressing the Power button to make it visible is so irritating (and this backlight problem, as mentioned above, can't be got around through any settings we can control).
Had a look at onein an orange shop they have not branded it an SPV but they have removed messenger i could not seem to fine it.
Are you able to get that from some

