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Hey, I got the same problem. Have no idea what to do. Already did: off/on, hard reset, batt. change.
Nothing works. Any solution ?

The only solution that I've come up with so far is to use a third-party ringtone editor to assigne a ringtone. You can try VITO RingtoneEditor (http://www.vitotechnology.com/en/products/ringtoneeditor_smartphone.html) which worked for me. I'm still looking for a better solution but no word from Orange as yet.

Matt

When you tried to open the ringtone settings, did you have a microSD card in the slot? I have found that if I have a card in the slot on my unbranded i600, I can not change the alarm settings (which also have a "ringtone" selection of sorts). If you do have one in, it might be the cause somehow.

Cheers, Mitchell Oke

No, didn't have a microSD in there, it's just right out the box! Someone else sugested letting Windows Media Player index all the audio files on the device first but this doesn't help either!

Matt

Hmm it is pretty strange that such a glaring bug could slip through testing. It's not like it's a buried feature, as you said it's the first place a lot of people would go.

We have since spoken to a lot of people that say they also experience this problem so perhaps it's not as isolated as we thought!?

Matt

apparently a firmware upgrade is required something to do with the radio controlled aspects of the phone affecting everything else. My M3100 crashes if i tru to change phone settings, notifications, if i try to check call history immediatly after making a call.

Unfortunately there isn't an official Orange firmware update for the device yet and I suspect that it will be quite some time before we see one. Using an unofficial update invalidates warranty.. :(

Matt

I can change the ring tone fine on my Orange I600, havent noticed any other problems either.

Has there been any recent developments with regards to a firmware update? Hello Matt, has Orange been in contact? I was just about to purchase this phone, after seeing quite a selection of good online reviews then stumbled upon this one. Does anyone know how widespread the problem is?

I am planning on getting the i600. For a 3GB/month plan and given my expected phone usage, I seem to have two choices:

- T-Mobile: Web 'n Walk 35 plus (12 months) for £47.50pm plus £300 odd for a sim-free handset (plus an unwanted handset); or

- Orange: Orange Solo 800 (18 months) for £23.50pm for 9 months and £47pm for 9 months and the handset for free (on 3g.co.uk).

Clearly, the latter is a cheaper (even if I sell the spare T-mobile handset). However, some questions:

1. What functionality (other than the MSN Messenger) has been removed from the Orange version? In particular, has the ability to be a modem survived unscathed?

2. Aside from the generally irritating orange-ness of the interface and the lack of the roller-deck, are the any other drawbacks with the Orange conversion? In particular, can you chose the default page for the internet, or do Orange direct to the joys of Orange world?

3. How easy if it to:

(i) reflash or
(ii) hack

the handset, so that it looks normal once again?

4. Any update on Orange's HSDPA coverage. They stated that they were intending to roll out to London and 5 other cities in 2007. Has London already been done?

5. Any update of stability or vanilla Samsung vs Orange? If there is instability with Orange, how can it be fixed?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Paul

Additional questions sorry:

6. The Orange version includes the extended battery. How easy is it to buy this separately/how much does it cost?

7. Samsung apparently have said that they will provide a WM6 update for the i600. Any news on whether this will apply to the Orange version (clearly Orange, not Samsung will have to decide this)?

Thanks again,

Paul

1) As far as I know you only lose MSN messenger. You can use internet connection sharing.

2) I have used the vanilla version and the Samsung version side-by-side for a while and there isnt a lot of difference but the Orange device is a little slower and less stable in general. I suspect this is to do with the Orange implementation of the ROM.

3) I suspect that the handset is pretty standard in this respect. I've not tried hacking or reflashing yet but suspect that I might be looking at this soon with WM6.

4) I can only tell you that most of London seems to have HSDPA coverage and it's pretty darn good!

5) Orange version defo. less stable.

6) I think that the Vanilla version now includes an extended battery, if not there are a few suppliers. I think eXpansys stock them.

7) Orange are generally quite (actually very) slow to release ROM updates, even to resolve critical problems so I wouldn't hold your breath for an Orange release of the WM6 rom!

Matt

Matt,

Thank you very much for your reply. Very helpful. In the end I went for the sim-free/T-mobile option (N95 shortly to be appearing on ebay). You are right that the Expansys sim-free comes with the extended battery (whereas a vanilla one I was offered on Tottenham Court Road only had two standard batteries - maybe older stock?).

I am happy with the Samsung. It is a lovely phone.

Thanks once again,

Paul

Hey Matt quick question.

When I try to change the settings to make a video call the phone asks me for a code ??? What code is this?? The phone is new and I have not added any barring codes at all.

Thanks for the help


Bubba

Bubba,

No idea, that's the first time I've heard of such a thing. I think you'll have to have a word with Orange on that!

Matt

I have recently bought a I600, unblocked in Kuala Lumpur and use it on the Orange network quite successfully.

The only issue I have is when I use the alarm the snooze fuction does not work (i.e. you can press the snooze but it dosent ring the alarm again) if the phone has been sitting idle for more than 30 minutes.

If you test the alarm and snooze function within the 30 minute period it will snooze and repeat indefinately.

Anyone else experienced this issue?

Graham

I was just about to sign up to a Orange i600 but just read your comments and i am a bit dubious now, is there only Orange i can get it on as i can not seem to find it on any other network ?

Apart from this it sounds like the handset for me.

Also what is the Vanilla handset ?

Thanks
Tim.

Tim,

As far as I know, Orange are the only UK operator to be offering this phone at the moment. Don't let the above comments put you off, it's a great phone and not everyone seems to suffer from the problems mentioned.

Vanilla refers to a handset direct from the manufacturer rather than from a Network. In this case a Vanilla Handset is an i600 that's direct from Samsung. It's not network locked and nor is there any operator customisation installed.

Matt

I have just been having a look on the net and i have come across the i600 on O2 and also Vodafone but when you go to the Voadafone site it comes up with a i320, is this a older model of the 600 as it is similar in aperance.

I have also emailed Samsung and they came back to me with this
"We are currently unaware with any problems of this nature with the
orange firmware and it is not a problem with the network free versions
of the handset. The orange version of the handset hasonly been out for
two weeks however, there will most likely be updatesfor this problem in
the future, but not as of yet"

Well theres a suprise !

I think i will just take the plunge and see what happens and let you know Matt.

Tim

I am trying to set this up as a Bluetooth modem with my MacBook. I have an Orange UK Samsung i600. I have set up internet sharing as a short cut on the i600.

Good news - I have the option "Join network on i600" in my Bluetooth preferences on my MacBook. Bad news - it is greyed out and I can not access it.

I suspect this is an Orange limitation, but Matt mentions that internet sharing works on his Orange i600? Is anyone else successfully using an Orange i600 as a Bluetooth Modem? Thanks

PS So far, I am preferring this phone over a treo 650 & SE M600i.

An update, success, I think. Restarting MacBook gave an option to join the the i600 network, but I could not connect. I was trying to use the 'orangeinternet' connection setting on the i600. I set up a new setting 'internetvpn' but no joy. Then I read I should be using the 'Orange GPRS WAP' setting. Success!

When I lose the connection the i600 network is greyed out and the ony solution seems to be a restart of the MacBook. But I will only use the i600 as a modem rarely so I can live with that.

Some great guidance with regards to the Orange version and the Vanilla of the i600.

Has anybody managed to 'flash' the Orange version and install the Samsung OEM software on it yet?

I've been quoted £15 to unlock. The phone seems far less crippled than the Orange SE m600i but I will probably unlock it as Orange take so long to issue new firmware, if ever

I've got the i600, no problem changing the ringtone but it only rings 3 times and then displays missed call - I can't find where to change this setting, any ideas?

otherwise great device...

Thanks

I have just got an i600 from Orange and not had any of the problems of crashing and locking up, but it is early days yet!
However I am disappointed that I can't implement the Samsung card wheel screen saver. I only have two options, list and icons!
Anyone know how to sort this?
Thanks

Yes, Orange kindly removed the Cardwheel from their implementation. If you have a look at xda-developers someone has ripped the Samsung version...

Matt

i've got an i600 on orange and it won't send/ receive
text messages at all....

how do i fix this.

thanks.

Phil.

I've had this phone for a week, pretty happy with it, but today all my system sounds have disappeared.

Tried on/off, and a hard reboot (removing battery while on), but nothing works.

Orange firmware is the worst I have ever come across.

I received my phone Sunday and couldn’t put it down since then.
I love the futures
Only problem I have is that when I get an sms or Text message and use a song or long tune as the ring tone the phone won’t stop the song and the vibrating even though I have read the whole message. No matter what I do it won’t stop until it has played the whole song.
Is this just the way it is or is there a setting I missed somewhere?
Otherwise brilliant phone

Hi guys
Ive recently upgraded from an SPV m3100 to samsung i600
and found that the i600 has no MS Word or Excel which
means I cannot transfer any of my previous documents from
my old phone to my new phone - any ideas? NB.The samsung
has Piscel which allows you to view the document but not
edit
Thanks for your help

hi matt i have purchased an i600 on orange but would like to change to to the orginal settings. how is this possible what do i have to do? thanks

Go into to settings > Display > Home screen and set it to Windows Basic. Try channging these settings until you find one that you like.

Matt

so will i get the orignal settings not the orange icons etc....? as the vista type of settings are much better.

the following link shows the setting i need matt, how can i get them i was told i have to flash the phone is this true?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w684hLnSc5U

Hi guys,
I've just got me i600 and I love it to bits, I've just got one small question, douse anyone know how you can tell what data connection you are using when using the internet? I have wifi in my house, so I obviously don't want to be using GPRS or HSDPA. The wifi symbol is there, but then so are the other symbols.

Any help would be great!

Thanks, Tristan

Hi there,

I had similar stability probs on my i600, so I reflashed it with a unbranded firmware pack.

Works like a dream now.

Deets are here:-

http://www.internet-tools.co.uk/blog/index.php/2007/10/01/samsung-sgh-i600-debranding-unbricking-hacking/

Regards,

Paul

How do you change settings for how many times the i600 will ring with an incoming call? I keep missing calls but can't work out how to change the settings.

Had i600 phone on orange for 5 months and seems to lose signal and drop calls quicker than nokia that I had before. Excellent phone but how can signal be enhanced?
When are samsung upgrading it?

my samsung sgh-i600 is asking for manual authentication & access code
I have the device code. From where i can get the ACCESS CODE ?

Davis Evans - I think the upgrades come from Orange, not Samsung, the handset carries Orange-branded firmware, is probably only compatible with Orange-branded firmware (Samsung's site where they offer the WM6 upgrade says that the upgrade is NOT for network-branded versions of the handset :( )

My device has another problem, I go to bed with the phone switched on, wake up the next morning to a phone with the display off and it won't react to anything, not even the power key... I have to remove the battery to get it going again, nothing's happened, it just crashes mysteriously through the night.

my samsung sgh i600 will not let me go on line i had the phone unblocked it was on t mobile so i switched to orange but it will not let me go on line plz help

my samsung sgh-i600 is asking for manual authentication & access code
I have the device code. From where i can get the ACCESS CODE ?

my samsung sgh-i600 is asking for manual authentication & access code
I have the device code. From where i can get the ACCESS CODE ?
pL. HELP ME FOR THIS.

Hi, does anyone know if there is a way to get msn messenger working on an orange i600?

I have the i600 with firmware upgrade and suddenly my h/s will not send or recieve mms. I have changed all the setting as per orange but still no joy. any ideas will be much appreciated. thanks