Orange SPV M3100 Headphone adapter hack |
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If you are looking for the Orange SPV M3100 review it's HERE
A couple of days ago I told you that I'd started to look at hacking together a headphone adapter for the SPV M3100. I have just finished my headphones adapter hack and thought I would share the procedure with you.
Important: If you follow my procedure I accept no responsibility for any damage you do to yourself, your phone or your headphones. I have carried out this hack and can confirm that it works perfectly with the Orange SPV M3100. It should work equally well with the HTC TyTN (and other HTC Hermes variants), Orange SPV C100 (HTC Oxygen), and the Orange SPV C700 (HTC Breeze).
You will need a 3.5mm Stereo Jack Socket and a Soldering Iron to carry out this hack.
First thing I did was cut the USB connector off the standard Orange headphones about 75mm from the USB plug itself. I decided that I wanted a short headphone adapter as my headphones have a long cable of their own.
Next strip back about 15mm of the cable sheath. Do this carefully so that you don't damage any of the wires inside, the wires inside are very thin and only insulated with coloured varnish.
Now we need to carefully separate the wires. We need the following colours:
Twist the Left and Right Ground wires together and tin the ends of the 3 cables that we are going to use. You can cut the other wires short - we don't need them as they are used for USB data
What needs to be done now is to solder the wires to the 3.5mm Jack Socket that we have. Don't forget that the socket cover goes over the cable before you solder the wires on! The connectors that your socket has may differ from mine. However, as a rule of thumb, jack sockets (and plugs for that matter) tend to have a silver and a copper solder tag for the positive left and right connectors. The right side is almost always the copper one. Solder the red wire to the right side, the green to the left side and the two striped cables that we twisted together to the outer ground of the socket.
Most jack sockets have a method of securing the cable in place. Mine had two metal clips that you bend down and use the clamp the cable
Now screw on the socket cover (you did put this on the cable before you soldered the connectors didn't you!?) and then lets check the headphone adapter to make sure it's working. If you have any problems then review your soldering and try again. All done!
I was surprised how loud the sound from the SPV M3100 was with my decent headphones!
Once again anyone carrying out this headphone adapter hack does so at their own risk but I'm happy to answer questions!
Matt
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Comment from: Rarebit [Visitor]
can you do it with a normal mini-usb? Reason being that the mic connection wouldn't be covered by using the above hack, and it would be good to keep that capability on the existing (naff!) set of phones.
21/08/06 @ 10:44
No, you can't use a normal mini USB cable. The reason being that the USB socket on the device is double sided and a normal cable will only pick up the contacts from one side.
The alternative is to wire the headphone socket on the other side of the mic/volume thingy.
Matt
The alternative is to wire the headphone socket on the other side of the mic/volume thingy.
Matt
21/08/06 @ 10:51
Comment from: James [Visitor]
Thanks for the pin-out. I happened to have a surplus Sony headphone extension lead lying around - the sockets they use are really small and neat.
So I took the mic/call_button/volume box in the OEM headset apart, de-soldered the original headphones and soldered the Sony socket in its place. I can now use it with a cassette adapter in the car, or with decent headphones at any time :-)
So I took the mic/call_button/volume box in the OEM headset apart, de-soldered the original headphones and soldered the Sony socket in its place. I can now use it with a cassette adapter in the car, or with decent headphones at any time :-)
21/08/06 @ 14:42
Comment from: David Field [Visitor]
Tracy
Will this adaptor work for the SPV m3100?
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main.asp?unit=O2_XDA_Mini_S-613&area=accessories
David Field
Will this adaptor work for the SPV m3100?
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main.asp?unit=O2_XDA_Mini_S-613&area=accessories
David Field
21/08/06 @ 14:43
David,
That adapter will definitely NOT work with the M3100.
Matt
That adapter will definitely NOT work with the M3100.
Matt
21/08/06 @ 14:51
Comment from: Keith [Visitor] · http://www.bikersoracle.com
Hi Matt, thanks a lot for posting this, I'm always needing to make adaptors to fit into my motorcycle music/phone system. One thing puzzles me a bit with your pinout: the mini USB must also be carrying a mic connector as there is an inline mic on the headset. Which wires do you think are for the mic? Usually there are only 4 wires ('cos the sockets on previous model smartphones took a 4 pole 2.5 mm jack)those wires were: Left, Right, Mic, Ground. I'm guessing this mini usb has the same four wires plus the one that charges the phone? I#d be surprised if there are actually two separate grounds for left and right which means your pinout might not be correct and one must be a mic. What do you think?
05/09/06 @ 19:26
Comment from: Keith [Visitor] · http://www.bikersoracle.com
Sorry, I'm also wondering if you think this could be used instead of hacking the original headset?
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=43998&doy=5m9
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=43998&doy=5m9
05/09/06 @ 19:30
Comment from: Mark Bounds [Visitor]
Fantastic idea - for me it almost works. I have wired this into a cassette adaptor and for some reason, I don't know why, I am only receiving audible sound through the right speakers, and very VERY faint sound through my left. Any ideas? The soldering's perfect. Anyone else have this problem with a cassette adaptor?
18/09/06 @ 22:52
Comment from: Stephen Tagg [Visitor] · http://s-tagg.market.strath.ac.uk/
The other work around is to buy a bluetooth stereo headset with A2DP - anyone with experience on this? (the idea of not having to untangle headphone cables is compelling)
21/09/06 @ 15:33
Comment from: Nick [Visitor]
This worked a treat with my Orange M3100. Remember you'll need plenty solder / flux to get a decent joint as the wires are varnished.
22/09/06 @ 20:11
Comment from: Kappa [Visitor]
Do you know how it's possible to wire-up simultaneously the headset & the charger? It would be nice to use the M3100 as MP3-player in the car, without having the problem of baterry discharge.
26/09/06 @ 17:25
Comment from: Martin [Visitor]
Will this adaptor for the UBiQUiO
maybe work?
http://www.shop.com/op/~UBiQUiO_Headset_Adaptor_to_3_5mm_Stereo_Socket_UBiQUiO_A0B71_990001_20-prod-35413055
maybe work?
http://www.shop.com/op/~UBiQUiO_Headset_Adaptor_to_3_5mm_Stereo_Socket_UBiQUiO_A0B71_990001_20-prod-35413055
11/10/06 @ 21:54
Comment from: Arne [Visitor]
Finnaly, a 3.5 jack adapter
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138247
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138247
18/10/06 @ 14:32
Comment from: Dave [Visitor]
I have followes these instruction carefully and yet I can only hear sound through the left headphone and my headphones are perfect. Any suggestions?
28/10/06 @ 01:17
Comment from: David [Visitor]
So. I have the Dopod 838 pro. (HTC HERM100) I also have Shure i3c headphones, including a 3.5 mm male for audio, a 2.5mm male for phone (audio and mic) and a switch between them.
I'm engaged in an effort to hack to the 2.5mm male, thinking I can leave the switch in the phone position to get both audio and phone from the device.
I stumbled upon your blog entry re: headsets. Cool Stuff. What I don't see here is if/how this hack accounts for mic input. Any thoughts?
I'm engaged in an effort to hack to the 2.5mm male, thinking I can leave the switch in the phone position to get both audio and phone from the device.
I stumbled upon your blog entry re: headsets. Cool Stuff. What I don't see here is if/how this hack accounts for mic input. Any thoughts?
28/10/06 @ 23:03
Comment from: Dutchpumpkin [Visitor]
Thanks a lot for your tutorial, I used it to modify the headset of my T-mobile MDA Compact III (Artemis). Cut the wires after the volume-thingy, so that the antenna for the FM-radio keeps working 100%. Works perfectly!
19/11/06 @ 17:29
Comment from: Amphipoda [Visitor] · http://amphicar.com
Dear Matt,
Thanks for posting your TyTn headphone
hack. After waiting months for someone
to sell an adapter I finally followed
your step-by-step solution with great
results! WOW... the TyTn is really
loud with decent headphones and to be
honest the stock headphones would be
100% useless if not for your clever
modification to create a universal
adapeter. Many thanks!!!
Amphipoda
20/11/06 @ 23:36
Comment from: Rob [Visitor]
What I really want to know is, what the hell are mobile phone manufacturers playing at by not putting 3.5mm jacks on phones as standard?
Adapters, soldering, wiring, pin-outs... what the f***?!?!?
Orange et al, for god's sake, if you're trying to punt phones as replacements for MP3 players then get in the game and stop making life so difficult for the users of your products!!
Adapters, soldering, wiring, pin-outs... what the f***?!?!?
Orange et al, for god's sake, if you're trying to punt phones as replacements for MP3 players then get in the game and stop making life so difficult for the users of your products!!
23/11/06 @ 13:05
Comment from: Carl Belcher [Visitor]
Great write up Matt.
Has anyone managed to wire up a 3.5mm socket beyond the mic and still retained mic operation yet?
Has anyone managed to wire up a 3.5mm socket beyond the mic and still retained mic operation yet?
23/11/06 @ 17:43
Comment from: Chris [Visitor]
Nice mod, but would say you could always get a stereo bluetooth adapter. Itech Clip S35. The M3100 has stereo bluetooth streaming, and this clip provides the mic connection element, just plug in your own 3.5m headphones. Just my suggestion.
24/11/06 @ 18:26
Comment from: Ed P [Visitor]
I did this mod this weekend. It works great! I have two bits of advice:
1- If you've never done any small solder jobs, this would make a bad first project. The wires are very small and delicate.
2- If you don't have a lot of experience with small solder jobs but still want to give it a try, I suggest you start with a longer cord so you can re-do the work if you have to.
3 - You will find the ends of the red and green wires easier to tin if you use a match or lighter to burn off the varnish. Be careful - it burns fast!
Good luck, and thanks for the tip Matt! I'm now a fan of the site!
1- If you've never done any small solder jobs, this would make a bad first project. The wires are very small and delicate.
2- If you don't have a lot of experience with small solder jobs but still want to give it a try, I suggest you start with a longer cord so you can re-do the work if you have to.
3 - You will find the ends of the red and green wires easier to tin if you use a match or lighter to burn off the varnish. Be careful - it burns fast!
Good luck, and thanks for the tip Matt! I'm now a fan of the site!
05/12/06 @ 01:35
Comment from: Tom M [Visitor]
I did this mod last night. Ed P's points above are very true. The wires are extremely thin and it helps to first burn off the varnish insulation, just don't burn off too much as it will lead to shorts in the jack as you smash the cover over your work. It is also was a bit tough for my aging eyes to see where the insulation ended and bare wire started. I got the helping hands and jack at Radio Shack here in the US. The helping hand was a wonderful help in doing this whole mod, very much worth the $13 US that I spent on it.
One additional note. I did this mod to my Cingular 8525. The wiring did not match exactly the layout described above.
All the wires were there but there are 2 green wires in the cable. Unfourtunately there is no visible way I could find to determine which is the Left speaker. So I just attached each wire to each tab and ground by wrapping it around the terminal, plugged in the headphones and played some music until the left headphone worked then I knew that was the wire.
Overall it worked great and thanks for posting the how too.
One additional note. I did this mod to my Cingular 8525. The wiring did not match exactly the layout described above.
All the wires were there but there are 2 green wires in the cable. Unfourtunately there is no visible way I could find to determine which is the Left speaker. So I just attached each wire to each tab and ground by wrapping it around the terminal, plugged in the headphones and played some music until the left headphone worked then I knew that was the wire.
Overall it worked great and thanks for posting the how too.
06/12/06 @ 18:04
Comment from: Dick [Visitor]
Superb mod, you've made a lot of people very happy! However, what I really want is a splitter: one end the original phone plug, splitting into a 3.5mm jack and a usb socket(to take original plug from charger/data cable etc)
What are the chances?
Cheers!
What are the chances?
Cheers!
02/01/07 @ 02:03
Comment from: Andy [Visitor]
I want to build a part for my Tuneups II head set that goes with my shi helmet. The part links the mobile phone to the ipod and the earphones. I have a new motorola pebl and it has a mini usb. I ned a connecting lead with a mini usb on one ene and a 2.5mm 4 pole jack socket on the other. Does anyone know of either where I can get one or what the wiring connections are. I have access to both components but I do not yet know the connections.
Thanks
Thanks
15/01/07 @ 20:57
Comment from: luke [Visitor] · http://www.creatorx.com
FYI inside the 8525 box when purchased at Cingular:
USB power/synch cable;
USB AC adapter;
USB Y Splitter - (headset & charge at same time);
Free USB Car charger coupon;
must send in coupon & your prized original bar code sticker from the box, they (can) take 10 weeks to ship free car charger, (which seem all to be $10 now)
but phone is great, performs well.
666
USB power/synch cable;
USB AC adapter;
USB Y Splitter - (headset & charge at same time);
Free USB Car charger coupon;
must send in coupon & your prized original bar code sticker from the box, they (can) take 10 weeks to ship free car charger, (which seem all to be $10 now)
but phone is great, performs well.
666
30/01/07 @ 04:04
Comment from: Steve [Visitor]
You can now get inexpensive good cable convertor at:
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=6999
they alos have lots of good accessories for your m3100!
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=6999
they alos have lots of good accessories for your m3100!
07/03/07 @ 00:44
Comment from: Shack77 [Visitor]
In reply to the above, I think that the wiring for the mic is the same as one of the speakers, i.e.you could use one or the other earphones as a mic. Pretty sure that audio jacks work like this.
My reasoning is as follows:
I have a C500 (2.5mm jack) wired up in my car through an amp to my speakers. When I call people, they hear me better if I'm speaking directly into my speaker. I'm pretty sure this is the case, so if you figure out which it is (a patient friend might suffer for you) you could split it off before the adapter and have a seperate mic wire. Guess you could cut it off after the mic casing.
I can't say I'll ever try it, because I'm bluetooth fan and my new E650 will be plugged into the amp, using the original adaptor.
Opinions, anyone?
My reasoning is as follows:
I have a C500 (2.5mm jack) wired up in my car through an amp to my speakers. When I call people, they hear me better if I'm speaking directly into my speaker. I'm pretty sure this is the case, so if you figure out which it is (a patient friend might suffer for you) you could split it off before the adapter and have a seperate mic wire. Guess you could cut it off after the mic casing.
I can't say I'll ever try it, because I'm bluetooth fan and my new E650 will be plugged into the amp, using the original adaptor.
Opinions, anyone?
24/05/07 @ 01:40
Comment from: mobile tech news blog [Visitor] · http://www.uptech-it.com
nice tip! will it work on motorola l7 phones?
09/07/07 @ 10:53
sorry, this is an HTC only hack.
Matt
Matt
09/07/07 @ 16:55
Comment from: mundavian [Visitor]
Don't see any responses to the questions about getting the mic to work. For some unknown reason after all this time HTC/Orange/T-Mobile are still unwilling to put out an extUSB-to-2.5mm headphone/mic adaptor so we can use the headphone of our choice when making calls. The speaker wire hack as described on this page works fine for me but can't get the mic to work. Has anyone been able to create an adaptor with working mic?
Mundi
Mundi
09/07/07 @ 19:26
Comment from: Rich [Visitor] · http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
Found the 2.5mm adapter!!!! Woo Hoo
26/07/07 @ 05:30
Comment from: robin [Visitor]
Hi. Good work guys. Seems related to my issue. I have just bought a Samsung U600 mobile which only has a funny looking kind of long thin mini usb slot for headphones.
Does your technique work for this, cos the supplied headphones are rubbish and I cant find any better ones.
Thanks
Does your technique work for this, cos the supplied headphones are rubbish and I cant find any better ones.
Thanks
01/11/07 @ 16:06
Comment from: devvon vienna [Visitor]
how about making a mini usb to 3.5mm jack for my SE K610i phone?
i havent found one in my town so i have to do it by myself. please tell me how.
i havent found one in my town so i have to do it by myself. please tell me how.
11/11/07 @ 10:48
Comment from: Pick4pam Alabama [Visitor]
I have found what many of us are looking for. A 3 in 1 adapter. It has a 3.5mm female for headphones and 2 usb's for charging/sync with a pc or car charger. Haven't tried it but will order one...not too pricey either. Here's the linky http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=01947&dept_id=001&cat_id=0006
06/12/07 @ 17:19
Comment from: Schlista [Visitor]
Worked with my 8525 headphones and a 1/8" (3.5mm) adapter I bought from Radio Shack. I also tested the USB/Headphone splitter that came with the 8525 and it works so I can charge and listen with real headphones. Test with my new Tilt and it works.
One thing I don't like is that the tension sleeve is too loose since the headphone wire is very thin. So I melted it with a lighter. It worked but it doesn't look as good now, but it's worth the extra protection from the solder/wires coming loose.
One thing I don't like is that the tension sleeve is too loose since the headphone wire is very thin. So I melted it with a lighter. It worked but it doesn't look as good now, but it's worth the extra protection from the solder/wires coming loose.
23/01/08 @ 22:48
Comment from: mark23 [Visitor] · http://www.moremobileinternet.com
I find this a really interesting information as i was looking an alternative headphone for my mobile.
12/05/08 @ 23:16
Comment from: axborn [Visitor] · http://axborn.myanimelist.net
That's really useful... unless you buy one on eBay for 2$ ^.^
15/11/08 @ 12:05
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